My salesman told me that the hydro lift system was a waste of $$ so I will be using the winch lift when the snow starts flying. I have always done that with previous ATV plows and never had any issues. I guess I will find out in a few months if my salesman was full of it or not. If I had it to do over I would have not gotten the JD plow and saved up for the BOSS VXT... a guy posted pics of that on this forum and it is BFA!